Survive the Amazon Marketing Blues
By Fantasy Author Sandy Lender
www.todaythedragonwins.blogspot.com

My fantasy novel CHOICES MEANT FOR GODS had been available at http://tinyurl.com/CMFGamazon for about a day when a friend of mine sent a message through an online group saying something to the effect of OMGlookatyourrankingonamazonlookatitnow. The note may have been in all caps.
I obeyed her to find my ranking at 200,000+. Well, that ain’t half bad for a then-unknown author with only one book out. But I recalled a warning a fellow writer gave at a meeting in the not-so-distant past. He explained that your book can perform much better in a day than the numbers/rankings at Amazon reflect. Here’s why:
The great and powerful Oz O’Amazon hides behind his curtain and sorts information every hour. He sends all those computer-language ones and zeroes skittering toward their end equations until, at about some point past the hour, according to the presenter, the rankings at Amazon.com change. This is every hour.
It’s enough to make an author bi-polar. And I don’t think you have to be a fantasy author like me who’s already half way to a state of confusion to develop the condition.
So I looked at my 200,000+ ranking when my friend told me to, came back an hour later to a 100,000+ ranking, and visited that night to find a 68,000+ ranking. I was elated. Elated, I tell you! But I have seen numbers all over the board since then. One recent night when I was contemplating the arsenic-laced Kool-aid because my ranking had been down around 1,400,000+, I checked one last time to see what exact figure to include in my suicide note. I found the blasted thing back at 200,000+! How does that happen? (I think that hour’s traffic can be attributed to an Author Island blog post, actually, and I recommend every published author get in touch with DeNita Tuttle for her much-needed support.)
There are other ways authors can manipulate their Amazon ranking. First, I would ask if it’s worth your time and energy. Second, I would caution you against unscrupulous agencies preying upon the insecure or inexperienced in our industry. Beware of PR companies that want to charge a few thousand dollars to get your Amazon ranking up to No. 1. Look closely at what they’re going to do:
- What gimmick or free give-away are they offering when someone buys your book? Maybe you’re cool with a bedroom toy for a free giveaway if you’ve got an erotic romance to promote, but, for the sweet romance couched in my fantasy CHOICES MEANT FOR GODS, a French tickler would definitely be over the top!
- Who are they going to align you with for promotional purposes? I’ll keep politics out of this blog post, and you probably want to keep political affiliations away from your romance, memoir, sci-fi, or mystery title, too.
- What sort of discount off your book are you going to have to take? If you’re just interested in building audience with a first book or a new genre, maybe giving up a small royalty in your contract is no big deal. For CHOICES MEANT FOR GODS, I was so pleased to get my foot in the publishing-industry door that I didn’t fear the industry’s warning cry that I’d make no money on the first book. I went in with both eyes open, knowing this is an audience-building venture. (Leave a comment to be entered in the drawing for a free copy out of the stash that I purchased from the publisher, by the way. Cheesy grin here.)
- How much are you going to have to pay? You have to weigh this marketing idea against other promotional and marketing weapons in your arsenal. In this day and age, few publishers hand out copious amounts of cash to authors for promotional efforts. Promoting and marketing your book is your responsibility. Luckily for me, ArcheBooks Publishing has some technologies in place to help its authors and the man in charge is a wiz when it comes to creating banners, flyers, ads for print or web, etc. Also in my favor: ArcheBooks Publishing has a stable of authors who have done this before and they could warn me against the predators who would seek out a fledgling author and scam her with an Amazon-rank-hiking scheme.
- Is your No. 1 ranking guaranteed? Just what will the company you’re paying guarantee to do with your Amazon ranking? Is it guaranteed for an hour? When is that hour—at 2 p.m. on a Saturday or at 3 a.m. on a Wednesday? Or is the No. 1 ranking guaranteed for a day, which I personally define as 24 hours.
These things are often a scam. Let me emphasize that for you. These things are often a scam. Please use your hard-earned money wisely and protect your hard-earned reputation carefully.
Now here’s something you can do to improve not just an arbitrary number, but your sales as well: get some good reviews. Do you know people who have already reviewed books on Amazon.com before? Those are good folks to talk to because they have a track record. Politely request they read and review your exciting new breakthrough novel. Now, a person who already has a few reviews under his or her belt will carry more weight than your Aunt Edna who’s never heard of Amazon before, but, hey, if Aunt Edna’s the only person biting right now, she’s better than no review at all! (unless she pans it…)
Beware of site owners who are paying for reviews. Potential buyers will start to pick up on that and get turned off. You’re better off selecting your own reviewers who are doing it because they love stories, love to read, love to offer their opinions and love to get home-baked cookies in the mail. (I’m joking. I’ve never sent cookies to a reviewer…yet.)
And here’s an interesting fact for you. When a five-star review goes up on Amazon, the book’s sales are supposed to increase by 38 percent. That’s nice.
So manipulate the ranking at Amazon.com (or B&N.com) however you wish, but don’t let it rule your life. Seeing it at 200,000+ at 6 p.m. doesn’t reflect the 45 books that sold at 10 a.m., or vice versa. The great and powerful Oz hasn’t perfected a system to make you look good for the whole day with numbers, but, you know what? I think you look good because you have a published book! Hooray for you!
And if you’re still working to get your book to that stage, there are tips and tidbits from interviewed authors at my blog, Today the Dragon Wins, to help you pursue that goal. We’re all pullin’ for ya.
“Some days, I just want the dragon to win.”

BLURB:
Not even the gods noticed when Chariss was born with the mark of The Protector. Now she and her wizard guardian seek shelter from a mad sorcerer in a household not just full of secrets and false hope, but watched by the god who will unwittingly reveal her role in an impending war.
When an orphan sets aside a lifetime of running and fear to accept the responsibilities of guarding an arrogant deity, can she face the trials in the prophecies she uncovers? Will Nigel Taiman of her latest refuge dare to use his dragon heritage to bind her to his estate or to help her in her duty?
EXCERPT:
This is a romantic scene as Nigel Taiman and Amanda Chariss ride from the estate at Arcana to Arcana City. Her wizard guardian has already clued her in to the fact that Nigel wants to court her, and she’s upset over it. The scene mentions the bear-like ryfel creature that nearly killed Nigel in the training arena…
Nigel frowned at her. Spurring his horse slightly, he reached out to take hold of Shadow’s bridle. Bringing them both to a stop, he turned in the saddle to face her.
“Hey!” she objected.
“Indeed. Have I done something to anger you?”
Her cheeks reddened with embarrassment.
“’Manda?”
“You’re staring at me.”
“By the gods, Woman. All right, I’ll look at your horse. ’Manda,” he said to Shadow, “what have I done that’s made you angry?”
“I’m not angry.”
“You’re not a liar,” he spoke to Chariss again.
“All right, so I’m a little angry. It will pass.”
“And you don’t want to tell me what it is?”
She couldn’t blame her reticence today on worry over Drake. She also couldn’t blame her health because she’d completely recovered from her telabyrinth poisoning. With Hrazon and The Master attending the summer festival, she couldn’t blame some sort of timidity at being ‘alone’ in the city. No, she had to take a deep breath and be honest with him. Considering the number of suitors she’d sent packing in the past few years, this should have been an easy thing to do again. It wasn’t. She sighed, closing her eyes as if she could make the scene disappear.
“Do you agree that you’re my friend?” she finally asked.
He watched her open her eyes then, realizing where the conversation must be going.
“Yes.” It was said with exasperation.
“And that I’m your friend?”
“Yes.”
“And does that please you?”
He sighed, but didn’t get a chance to answer.
“You see, Nigel, it pleases me. I appreciate your kindness, and I would be disappointed if we hadn’t built such a…such a…”
“Friendship?” he retorted.
“Such a rapport.”
He rolled his eyes. “A fancier word with even less affection.”
“My stay at Arcana is much more pleasant because I have this relationship with you. But someone has tried to convince me that your…your…”
“Feelings?”
“Well…your…”
“Intentions?”
“Well…your opinion of our relationship might be somewhat different from mine.”
“’Manda, just say what you’re thinking. You won’t hurt my feelings.”
She looked miserable then. “I don’t want to say what I’m thinking.”
“Good!”
“No, that’s not good. Hrazon thinks you’re…Hrazon believes you spend time with me because…” She paused, searching for the words.
“Because I’m in love with you?”
She nearly fell backward. “Just blurt it out!”
He chuckled slightly. “This is uncomfortable, isn’t it? I’m sorry to embarrass you. This conversation would be better in a darkened corner of Arcana’s parlor. ’Manda, I’m not going to lie to you. Hrazon has every reason to believe I’m after his ward because I am. It’s no secret to anyone I enjoy your company. What, where are you…You’re the only woman I know who can scoot that far away on a saddle without falling off.”
“I don’t think you should say those things.”
“Aye,” he sighed, watching her fidget with Shadow’s reins. But he made a decision to press the matter. “I’m going to say them and get them out in the open. Then we can decide if you’re to die of embarrassment, or slap me across the face.”
She couldn’t help smiling, even though her heart beat as if it would burst through her bodice from the tension she felt.
“I enjoy being with you because you’re my perfect match,” he said. “Have you noticed that we agree on almost everything? And the few things we don’t agree on are intriguing to argue because you make them intriguing. There’s no one at that entire estate, The Master and every intelligent student combined, who can hold my attention as you do. None of them compare.
“I’m attracted to everything about you, including your compassion. Even now, when you’re on the verge of falling off a horse with embarrassment, your concern is for my feelings, not your own. Godric, who doesn’t deserve to wash your feet, who finds every excuse to correct you, gets your respect because you remind yourself that he’s your benefactor. Do you know what strength of character that shows? Do you know how it endears you to me to know you bite your tongue after his arrogant remarks to save my mother’s feelings?”
She merely nodded, her eyes cast down.
“And do you know how it endears you to me to know you would fight to the death for little Kaylin?”
She nodded again.
“And do you know how it endears you to me to know you instinctively threw yourself into healing spells to save my life?”
“You shouldn’t assume that means—”
“I remember sliding toward death that night, life spilling out of me, and poison seeping into me from that thing’s claws. But do you know what I remember most distinctly? I remember you commanding me not to bleed to death…and I remember your hands afterward. Once I was healed, once Master Rothahn became preoccupied with the dead ryfel, you crawled over to me and put your hands on me again, as if you had to be sure He’d done a good enough job of healing me. But you would’ve done it for any member of my family. I daresay you would’ve done it for any student in the school. And it’s because you care about others, and you want the best for everyone around you. And you’re the most beautiful woman I’ve ever seen.”
The last comment caught her off guard. It didn’t seem to fit with the logical argument he tried to make.
“I fail to see how these things tell you you’re in love. Kaylin enjoys my company. Mia enjoys arguing with me. I saved Sorne’s life once. Does this mean they’re in love with me?”
“If love could be explained that easily, it wouldn’t be real.”
“But what makes you think it’s real now? If you can’t explain your feelings, how do you know you’re not misled?”
“How does the rose know to bloom in spring?”
“Oh, now that talk I’ve heard before. I didn’t believe it then, and I don’t think you should let yourself believe it now.”
“’Manda, I’m telling you the truth and I’m telling you what I know. If I’ve made you angry by falling in love with you, you’re just going to have to deal with it. Because you’re not currently interested in me, you have to give me time to change your mind.”
They were silent then; he waited for some sign that she wasn’t going to cast him aside, she waited for her heart to stop beating so loudly in her ears. As far as she was concerned, she was often a foolish girl, but her intentions at the beginning of this conversation were foolish beyond compare. She realized—with alarm—that the blood rushing through her veins, the lightheadedness, the excitement at getting to spend an afternoon with him, were all signs she had chosen to ignore.
She swallowed hard against the fear in her throat, and, with as much calm as she could muster, said: “What gives you the idea that I’m not interested in you?”
Don’t forget, if you comment or ask questions, you’ll be entered to win an autographed hard cover copy of Choices Meant for Gods. And Sandy will feel good, because she knows you read her blog!


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June 3, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Sandy Lender
Good morning, Anne!
Thank you for hosting me today. I’m here and ready to answer questions from your guests.
Also, oh-so-good editor that I am, I typed in the wrong url for my Amazon page in the post I sent you. Duh. It’s supposed to be http://tinyurl.com/CMFGamazon. For some reason, they’ve got my first novel on sale right now. I couldn’t have planned that if I tried…
Happy Wednesday!
Sandy Lender
“Some days, I just want the dragon to win.”
June 3, 2009 at 8:53 pm
annekane
Hi Sandy! Glad to have you here. I changed the url in the post and checked that it worked. I know I tend to click through links like that one, so we don’t want anyone getting lost.
Congrats on your release and here’s hoping for many, many sales!
Anne
June 3, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Jennifer
I have to admit, when I’m looking for a new book I never look at the rankings. I DO look at the reviews, both good and bad. I know my own tastes and have found that there will be things in a bad review (something perhaps that particular reviewer didn’t like) that wouldn’t bother me at all. And, conversely, even in good reviews I’ve found things about stories that turn me off wanting to buy that particular book. (Yeah, I’m contrary)
Saying all that, it’s interesting to look at Amazon from the side of an author instead of a reader. Thanks for sharing!
June 3, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Sandy Lender
Jennifer,
I never looked at rankings or reviews until I got into book publishing. Now I’m obsessed and probably on the verge of some kind of breakdown. Of course, if I’m interested in a book’s blurb, I don’t pay much mind to the reviews…or the ranking…but I stare at them and wonder if the author is out buying rope…
Thank you for stopping in to visit today!
Sandy Lender
“Some days, I just want the dragon to win.”
June 3, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Marianne
I’ve never really understood how all that works, so tend to ignore it, lol… Guess that’s probably a good thing, or I’d be joining you with your “koolaid”.
June 3, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Sandy Lender
Marianne,

I still don’t understand how all that works. Amazon is a confusing beast. I just send people there to check out my reviews and hopefully get interested enough to buy the book. My publisher has the eBook format, but you can’t read any reviews at my publisher’s site…so I tend to push the Confusing Beast.
Sandy Lender
“Some days, I just want the dragon to win.”
June 3, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Karin
I was reading your blog from yesterday and thought that when great minds (yours and Tolkien’s) come up with the same name does that mean it is now ‘real’?
June 3, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Sandy Lender
Karin,

First, you are my favorite person today because you have grouped me with Tolkien. You ROCK.
I have to admit that after finding Tolkien’s “ungol” reference…I promptly forgot what it was for. (Someone out there can tell us, I’m sure!) If he had a peaceful, artistic society living underground called Ungol, then we’re onto something. I think it’s officially “real” then and we can list it with elves and dwarves and dragons as typical fantasy elements. If his “ungol” isn’t a group of peaceful and lovely underground humanoids, then we might have fans joining warring fantasy camps at DragonCon some day in the future to duke it out.
(And how fun would that be? They could have t-shirts.)
I’m so glad you brought this up. The prospect of a battle at DragonCon is going to keep me entertained the rest of the day.
Sandy Lender
“Some days, I just want the dragon to win.”
June 4, 2009 at 2:25 am
Joyce A. Anthony
Good advice, Sandy. At first, I checked my rating several times a day–now I’m lucky if I check it once a month
Oh-are you sure you aren’t offering free French ticklers??
June 4, 2009 at 2:55 am
Sandy Lender
Joyce!! Woman!!
You’re making me paranoid…
Sandy Lender
“Some days, I just want the dragon to win.”
June 4, 2009 at 2:40 am
Nancy Gilliland
First, Cirith Ungol is the pass Frodo takes where he meets up with the giant spider. It’s one of the strongholds for the orcs. (Yeah, LOTR freak here) I love the blurb for your book, and the excerpt as well. This is going up near the top in my TBB list. Second, I don’t pay as much attention to Amazon ratings as I do reader reviews. If ten people read it and loved it enough to say so, thats better than some arbitrary rating system for me.
June 4, 2009 at 3:03 am
Sandy Lender
Nancy,
You rock as well! And it sounds like Cirith Ungol is not a lovely peaceful place. In fact, any place with orcs and giant spiders is pretty much OFF my travel itinerary.
Bummer.
But I’m glad to hear I’ve exceeded the 10-reviewers-liking-it qualification for your book-buying pleasure. He he he.
Thank you for adding to the conversation today!
Sandy Lender
“Some days, I just want the dragon to win.”
June 4, 2009 at 2:44 am
Pauline Jones
Most interesting blog, Sandy. And I get you tomorrow!
amazon makes me crazy, too. i try not to look, but some days I can’t help myself. LOL!
June 4, 2009 at 3:04 am
Sandy Lender
***waving to Pauline***
We’re gonna party, baby.
June 4, 2009 at 3:13 am
Pauline Jones
LOL! I just hope people come! I’ve been so busy writing, I haven’t been blogging. But will post on twitter and hope!
June 4, 2009 at 3:26 am
Mysti
WHEW!!! I made it! LOL… did you think I’d miss your post today? Not THIS stalker… muhahaha…
Anyway, I’m pre-published (just got my first contract for a short story, YAY), so don’t worry about Amazon just yet. But WOW is there a lot to learn about marketing. Sheesh…
I guess the writing is the easy part?
June 4, 2009 at 4:05 am
Sandy Lender
Mysti,
Congratulations on the short story. That’s a big deal. Where’s it going to print?
Yeah, marketing is a fulltime job, but, you know, there are a ton of really nice people out here who jump in with ideas and warnings and suggestions and team-promo opportunities…tons of stuff.
Sandy Lender
“Some days, I just want the dragon to win.”
June 4, 2009 at 3:39 am
Nancy Gilliland
Also, if I really like the book, I will go on Amazon and post my reviews. I’ve done that for several books so far, and have gotten nice remarks of thanks for the authors for it. (And I ALWAYS want the dragons to win.)
June 4, 2009 at 4:13 am
Sandy Lender
Nancy,
I’d like to know how to get in touch with reviewers. There are some folks who have left a review and I’d like to say “thanks” but I didn’t know who they were or how to contact them. You click on the name and it gets a “no reply” type of circular message.
But I don’t want this to sound like I’m complaining! I’m thrilled to pieces that wonderful folks have read my books and loved them enough to take the time to figure out Amazon’s review system and post a review. One gal wrote to me to say she couldn’t post her review on Amazon because she’d never purchased anything there. So she’s putting the review up on GoodReads or Barnes & Noble or something else. Isn’t that nice?
So there are folks like you who understand that sharing the positive, affirming opinion is really important to the author (especially a new author!) and, believe me, we authors are thankful you’re out there and willing to share.
Sandy Lender
“Some days, I just want the dragon to win.”
June 4, 2009 at 6:44 am
Penny Ehrenkranz
Great post. Thanks for sharing all this useful information. I have to admit, I never check my “ranking” on Amazon. To me, it just never really mattered all that much. Maybe I should be paying more attention to it though…
June 4, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Sandy Lender
Penny & Agnes,
Don’t let it drive you to distraction! Thank you for stopping in!
Sandy Lender
“Some days, I just want the dragon to win.”
June 4, 2009 at 9:01 am
Laura Hogg
Hello, now this is an interesting post. Thanks for sharing information that we don’t all have, and congratulations on your book. I hope it does well.
June 4, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Sandy Lender
Good to see you again, Laura!
Thank you for the kind words,
Sandy Lender
“Some days, I just want the dragon to win.”
June 4, 2009 at 10:29 am
agnes dee
A fascinating insight into the ‘underground plumbing’ of Amazon, Sandy. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
June 4, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Catherine Bybee
I’ve been told of some of these pitfalls of Amazon… Yet you have to wonder how being in the top 100 at Amazon changes writers choices? Or paychecks?
When you can write Amazon Top 100 or NYT Bestseller… how does that change an authors carrer?
June 14, 2009 at 6:27 am
Sedonia Guillone
Thanks, Sandy for the encouraging words about this Amazon ranking business. I have a bunch of books at Amazon and I admit I obssessively check my rankings every day more than once. Your observations about the ranking thing coincide with what I’ve found to be true also and I don’t worry about the ranking as much as long as it’s under 200,000. I do know that as time has passed for my books released two years ago, rankings over 500,000 translate to only a few sold over time.
I’ve also found that good reviews boost sales and then one bad review can make sales plummet. Those are a bummer and it’s happened to me on two of the books.
Anyway, thanks for your post and congratulations on your new release. I wish you the best with it. Sedonia
June 14, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Margay
Sandy, it looks like you’re having a great tour so far. I can’t wait for you to stop by my Moonlight blog.
June 26, 2009 at 6:28 am
Marie
This sounds like such a neat book, I’d love to read it! I had no idea about the Amazon rankings — very interesting!
marielay@gmail.com
June 30, 2009 at 2:59 pm
James
Thanks for sharing such good stuff. Specially the tips and tidbits from the interviewed authors are great. Its really very interesting post I must say. Best of luck for the book. Keep going…
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